Saturday, June 18, 2016

Significance of the Senate changes. Is this the first DD that won't work?

 If you know of a better discussion of this of  mine below let me  know  because  I don't claim to fully understand the consequences. I  too am trying to make sure the Senate isn't being stalled by large numbers of unrepresentative persons.
Draft for comment    Who knows what will happen - its not quite anyone's guess

A big issue as yet undiscussed     ALL Voters should try to fill in whole form esp in the Senate 
My prediction is that the numbers of exhausted votes will be the most serious preventable disease of this moment - if we don't address it  B4 saturday

eg most HTV cards only list 6 in Senate suggesting that's ALL people need to do . Its evident it will only affect discerning voters ( what a disgrace by the wannabes!) 






What  numbers are critical where in the Senate ?

1. Its important to number all the boxes to avoid the risk of your vote exhausting itself and not being counted at all for any of the 12 ( If for example people only list 12 very minor groups )
  1. GREENS if your "minor "party is actually a " big group' AND easily gets its quota like the Greens , your vote will be used to get at least one of the 12 greens into power , Once you vote Green its unlikely to help anyone else but Greens  ( or maybe Animal Justice Party ) if people follow their recommendations .   
  2. NON GREENS If its unlikely any of your preferred minors is likely to get a quota you can add quite a few of them before your vote for the major party of your choice is counted .
    This IMO is what protest voters should  do . Get at least 2 or 3 votes in before you vote major if those minors mean something to you ?

Background 

The Decision , it seems to me , by the house of reps to not have groups allocating your preferences in the Senate, seems to be one we can, on balance , all welcome .
However,  there have got to be some unintended consequences. One of which is the  possibility that an already large group of unrepresentative people will have their people with great influence in the Senate on the basis of numbers alone .
The framers of our constitution anticipated this possibility  that the Senate could become the more powerful of the two  houses  ? They allowed for it by creating Double Dissolutions .

With the prospect that we will have an even more powerful Senate  AFTER the ELECTION. We may  to  change how DD work. but that s after the election .  
What  can we do now before the election?

That awefully long ticket   
Few of us know what it now means for our numbers . If you know of a better discussion of this than mine below let us know  because  I don't claim to fully understand the consequences. I   too am trying to make sure the Senate isn't being stalled by large numbers of unrepresentative persons. Tell me otherwise but instead of reducing the power of The Greens this DD  risks that minor represenataive groups like the Greens or the Animal Justice Party  will get  lots more seats ----if WE do not vote very carefully in the senate

What  numbers are critical where ?
This is only my idea but I think it respects the opportunity for minor parties to be heard ( very important ) but also to stop major groupings from getting control without seeking proper  representation ( the above named risk)

Always include the majors in the right order so that eventually your vote will count  ,If you vote for the greens early they will absorb your opportunity to vote for anyone else but them .


1 comment:

Little John said...

INDEPENDANTS DAY Madigan and Muir are calling for this on 2nd . ma not solve all our tensions but its a great idea to give them priority