Referendum Focus 3 - What can aboriginal culture teach us about how to better plan land use .?

 Western Australia  is in the news for including aboriginal consultant groups in the planning system. 
POSITIVE
The aboriginal focus on getting place driven consensus is very welcome, but even that focus will not work if the rest of Australia don't change the planning system away from its current drowning in consultant advice and referrals.  See recent discussion about fire at the Royal Society of Victoria . 
 
NEGATIVE 
I am not going to spell out a proper consultancy framework because effective change will take a revolution in thinking and representation in the bush . The system is falling over but more  outrage at poor representation ( eg medical  and health care ) in the provinces is needed before any proper care and consideration is given by Canberra . 
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Pollie's are often followers . not leaders so don't give the real desperate dummies any leads 

POSITIVES 

There is still much to learn about how first peoples used land fire and resources  but our children will better off ( as our" Modern Australia" you mention, is" ) IF   ALL decisions and long winded discussions  are based on much advice from a range of advisors . This  slow process was stated below ( tiles on the floor of the Victorian parliament) by our first Governor who, like us , was finally pretty disgusted about how his own Englishmen behaved.  

Let's be agreed then, You make your list,  I will make mine and others will add good and bad to theirs .

  BUT let us all remember,  as the disagreement between Bruce Pascoe and scientists  on Dark Emu program on the ABC showed recently , we already have a good system for sorting out scientifically verifiable solutions without insisting that one voice is more important or wiser than another. 

Bruce Pascoe  and Bill Gammage's books . like the above program on ABC , would be  a hundred time better if scientists and observers were involved in sorting out the speculation from the actual facts., well before it went to air and got oxygen . 

For our children's sake,  let's insist the do-gooders ,and other often ignorant insistent's ( including the mad media) have done their consultations before they just make more noise . 

FINALLY 
Ask me personally is fine   SO , If you are a young person and are interested, you can probably help the revolution in returning power to the Provinces. 

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Referendum Focus 2 - What Western Australia's move says about the parlous state of planning in Australia?

 If you read nothing more ---watch Rob Sitchs UTOPIA.

If you think that is bad, try and imagine the mess polys have made of environmental planning . I won't go into the history just now because it varies from State to State  . 
The whole mess has been precipitated by the ignorant greens , the compliant left and the arrogant and defensive right. 
You maybe the only smart person on line who listens . 
Just a note for now a post I made this week 

"As a former rural planner and planning coordinator  in the State of Victoria 

its very clear that WA and MOST rural Councils do not know what they are doing. 

Inertia, incompetence , irresponsibility and stupidity characterize the current planning system as UTOPIA ABC shows . 

The current incumbents  just go along with this madness in burdening the contorted planning system and its unresolved same old same old death traps for innovators and legally compliant types . 

These well intentioned half wits in charge , do not realize that by just accepting new overlay constraints and all these consultants ,,they are the instruments of unnecessary and very costly torture and basic disintegrated incompetence and worry .
The system wants to know everything but can't then decide anything .This not need be so -but I am not telling you now because polys use answers to win elections - not implement the needed change. See talk of revolution below  . 

Planning for first peoples relics and sacred sites/issues shouldn't be so difficult (or framed in the dustheap system on the present ones ) : 

These half wits  talk of red tape reduction when its them that are unnecessarily shedding the blood of hard working producers . 

These changes will breed the latest non compus Mentus lot of bureaucrarts and representative's who have NO Future , 

How much longer before the opposition realize that ABC UTOPIA is talking about complete incompetence and disrespect for productive planning .   

STOP BEING SUCH A BUNCH OF POOR LISTENERS !

You could win votes by actually listening to people who know better ways to DO things !

Referendum Focus 1 - How has aboriginal culture benefited modern Australia?

 How has aboriginal culture benefited modern Australia?

The question is a very valid one, but it is not helpful to make too much of it at this referendum.

The question is also very relevant to 2020's because the media have finally given some oxygen to those whose actual practices have much to teach us about proper footprint on this old country.  
Modern Agriculture as practiced , still has a lot to learn about how to use the earth better and that truth applies to Agricultural practice  the world over , 

So why am I against the current amendment? 

First off, we have to have solid and sound reasons to change our constitution; and weighing up cost benefit is like passing our life decisions into the hands of accountants or lawyers -- its like taking ourselves back to the dark ages; Where revenge was accepted practice and the tough but blessed stuff of forgiveness was NOT .
 Second ,I am against the current amendment because the future will soon burn up a deal of old and poor land management practice with no race having  a completely sound culture of land use that is beyond examination .

Objective science is the key to the future and we desperately need to stop making it political 

Thirdly, what the Insistent's  in charge do not realize is that good land management is usually not about their favorite subject of naming the evil but managing the evil" ( eg managing the harvest planting --logging , cropping )  Give the job of deciding what is right to objective local and accountable scientists;

The best reason to reject this hastily drafted current amendment is because it directly threatens a key principle of our unity .

At the very basis of our unity as Aussies is a faith in the value of all persons - not what they do and what they have done,, or even what they did in the past .

The last idea is then the best reason to reject the proposed amendment because to value people ( and their opinion) because of their productivity or righteous behavior or righteousness is plain wrong.

As an effective and practical ecologist of influence, I seek and value the first peoples reminder that the Europeans blindly used land management techniques that were not only not appropriate or scientific, but which ignore and can still ignore the sensitive ways first peoples used land.

European ways must not be dismissed though , because scientific research can ( and have )show/ shown us new ways to be sensitive and better custodians than all previous cultures have been . This is the positive way forward for all Aussies.

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There is still much to learn about how first peoples used land fire and resources but our children will better off ( as our" Modern Australia" you mention, is" ) IF ALL decisions and long winded discussions are based on much advice from a range of advisors . This slow process was stated below ( tiles on the floor of the Victorian parliament) by our first Governor who, like us , was always fighting English Lords and was always disgusted about how many of his own English gentry behaved.

Let's be agreed then, You make your list, I will make mine and others will add good and bad to theirs .

BUT let us all remember, as the disagreement between Bruce Pascoe and scientists on Dark Emu program on the ABC showed recently , we already have a good system for sorting out scientifically verifiable solutions without insisting that one voice is more important or wiser than another.

Bruce Pascoe and Bill Gammage's books . like the above program on ABC , would be a hundred times better if scientists and observers were involved in sorting out the speculation from the actual facts., well before they went to air and got oxygen.

For our children's sake, let's insist the do-gooders ,and other often ignorant Insistent's ( including the mad media) have done their consultations before they just make more noise .